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Why did they not show Goku go Super Saiyan when this happened
Topic Started: May 23 2012, 03:52 PM (1,806 Views)
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Okay I don't know if some of you guys remember about the Lord Slug movie, but there is a part where Chichi helps Gohan out by fighting the henchmen. She gets punched and knocked out. :@ Then they just move on. I was like....what? Man, Chichi could have taken that bastard too. :@ Anyway, back to what happened with Goku. In the Garlic Jr. movie when she gets hit, Goku knows exactly that she did like they have some kind of connection. So what happened in Lord Slug movie?

I wanted to see some Super Saiyan anger! :@ :@ :@ :@ It would have been a perfect time do it.
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Goku had been knocked the fugg out along with Krillin. All they were seeing we're stars from being hit by Slugs base
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I don't think in M4 Goku had reached SSJ level
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Movie 4 was before SSJ. Ofc that they save main event for Frieza saga.
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yeah thats the false super saiyan form. apparently making an SSJ form before the anime was a no no.
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I always considered there to be a minimum PL threshold before SSJ became available to a saiyan, however angry they got (which explains why nobody had achieved it before Goku did). I have that as ~ 1 000 000 in base form, without any multipliers like KK.

If you put that criterion there, you could simply explain the business M4 by saying that Goku was not yet up to that PL and hence couldn't unlock SSJ at that point. FSSJ is, I guess, what happens if you are almost there, but not quite.
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itss natural to assume that, but even with a broly size zenkai, the highest bardock could have reached as a super saiyan was about 900,000 so i doubt a power level is necessary, especially since they can raise their max power ten times by simply changing to oozaru.
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Ooozaru is a multiplier, not the base PL. The fact that Bardock's base was nowhere near that level explains why he never went SSJ however angry he got.

Goku only reached a base PL greater than 1 million after Captain Ginyu, which is why he went SSJ after that point, even though it wasn't the first time he'd had such a strong emotional outburst.
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Chi chi wasn't dead so he wasn't too fussed lol.
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I think the simple answer here is that he doesn't really care about Chi chi, lol.

I'm sure he values her, but ultimately, I don't think Goku cares.

Doesn't anyone remember the scene in Movie 8 where Goku just leaves Chi chi stranded in the school and uses IT in front of people? Lmao.
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May 27 2012, 12:57 PM
Ooozaru is a multiplier, not the base PL. The fact that Bardock's base was nowhere near that level explains why he never went SSJ however angry he got.

Goku only reached a base PL greater than 1 million after Captain Ginyu, which is why he went SSJ after that point, even though it wasn't the first time he'd had such a strong emotional outburst.
oozaru is NOT a multiplier, its a power adder from the form they possess.

in other words its a RELEASER, not a multiplier of any sort and is the max power of any saiyan.

So dont speak with such authority. what you just said is NOT true.

neither goku nor chi chi understand what love is, just mating for life like animals.

when they first met tells the story.

Goku touches her private area and she blushes after slapping him silly. declaring now she has to be his wife.

5 years later she is still chasing him.

No, its not love. Goku married her because he was told to.

He cares about people in his life, but....his reliance on the dragonballs has to with his actions, alot.



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The Oozaru is a x10 multiplier, stated by Vegeta.
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vegeta NEVER said multiplier, he said its a form that makes you ten times stronger.

turning ozzaru is a part of their genetic makeup, its NOT a special ability.

A saiyans max power is brought to the surface as an Oozaru.

The form accompanies this belief with increased body mass and strength 100 fold.

its not a multiplier form, its a release form.

Goku lost his tail 3 times in DB, the final time was with Kami. His drinking the god water 3 years before brought ALL of his OOZaru power to the surface. That much is plainly clear.

Thats how goku got so strong, then he continued to train at that same level and get stronger.

Its a release form, and its power is hidden.
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So would Daizenshuu's entry be considered a multiplier or a releaser?

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The unique ability of the Saiyan fighting race, where by basking in the light of the full moon, they transform into giant monkeys. During this time, their battle power raises to ten times what it is as a human.
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that clearly sounds like a release form to me. A multiplier is a variable, this is established fact.

The transformation is a guaranteed power release, otherwise the OOZARU form wouldnt mean anything, nor would it increase strength.

So since the saiyans ARE OOZARU then it makes sense to have their max level of power in their power releasing form. Its the whole reason to change.

I just think that the way multiplier is used is out of context, this is a guaranteed transformation for any saiyan. The boost is a given, especially since their loss of power has to do with their size and mass.
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